03.02.10

Yamato 1/60 (V2) VF-1S Super/Strike (including Anniversary Edition)

Posted in 1/60, Macross/Robotech TMS, VF-1, VT, VE Valkyrie, Yamato at 12:01 am by micronian

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Review(updated): Where brilliant meets brittle

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Anniversary 1S V2 1

Packaging and Extras: (5/5)
Without a doubt Yamato did a fantastic job on both the package and the goods provided.  The missiles (both reaction and regular) take after the 1/48 in design but are more detailed and attach much more snuggly.  Similarly, the gun appears to be a shrunken 1/48 gun but oddly, while it features the attachment points for a gun strap, no strap is provided.  Fixed posed hands are also present as are attachments for the Yamato DYRL Launch Arm and an additional attachment letting you connect the fuselage to the forearm.  Unlike the original Yamato 1/60, the pilot included this time has both of his legs.  While the box isn’t as streamlined as it potentially could be it is much more compact than Yamato’s last effort at including full strike accoutrements with a VF-1 toy as seen in the comparison pic above (granted, it’s comparing a 1/48 toy to a 1/60).  Update 3/1/2010 – To commemorate their release of the V2 toy, in late 2009 Yamato released anniversary editions of their VF-1S Hikaru and Focker toys.  Both toys came packaged with mini flashlights that showed off the Jolly Roger when illuminated (the Focker with a silver tint demonstrated below, the Hikaru has a red tint).  The third box package picture above shows off the Focker release’s updated packaging.  The “plus” only means that this version of the toy comes with a mini flashlight, there are no other improvements on the toy and the V2.1 upgrades seen starting with the VT-1 are absent here.  Unlike the original release, the anniversary edition doesn’t come with a flip top lid to show off the goods within.  “But Micronian, if there is no flip top lid why does Yamato still insist on packaging the toy with the wings all spread out which necessitates a much larger box?”  I don’t know.

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Charm & Collectability: (2/5 for original release, 4/5 for anniversary edition)
The first version of this toy was amazing and sold extremely well… and then an extremely high number had their shoulders break… some were broke without the toy ever having been touched.  My shoulders broke, I ordered replacements, and the replacements were broke before I even put them on the toy.  Rumor has it that the anniversary edition uses smaller pins and was constructed more carefully so it won’t be a problem but it’s hard to ever trust the shoulders since they look so flimsy and I’ve already seen FOUR (2 lefts, 2 rights) break in two.  I would hope that the anniversary edition really is safe and that’s why I’d leave its score high here.  As for your Yamato 1/48 and original VF-1 1/60 toys, expect their secondary prices to drop… and in most instances they already have.  I’ve included a quick comparison picture of those three toys below.  Unfortunately, I had way too many pictures of this new 1/60 2.0 toy to include too many comparison shots so I think I’ll have to do another post later.

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Sculpt, Detail, and Paint: (9/10)
Yamato did an excellent job here in all respects.  It isn’t a perfect representation of the VF-1 but it’s darn close.  There is a loss in detail here related to the size, you won’t get the inner landing gear detail like you do on the VF-0 toys.  This toy would also react very well to a panel line job as the panel lines are now so thin that they’re barely noticeable.  The canopy is a little too bulbous but that’s only noticeable when taking a direct profile view of the fighter.  Note all the pre-painted detail!  Yamato didn’t skimp on the detail elements that originally made their 1/48 so lauded either, you still get a fan intake and thrusters in the feet (although this time they’re the vented style). Battroid mode is phenomenal in my estimation with the new head sculpt making the original 1/60 sculpt seem even more pathetic than it had in the past. 

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Design: (9/10)
There are hints of Yamato’s previous efforts throughout this toy… some employed better than others.  Clearly this design borrows a lot from the VF-0 toy which shouldn’t be too surprising considering how much the VF-0 borrowed from the 1/48 VF-1 toy.  The first thing you have to know going into transformation (for all you hot shots who know VF-1 transformation like the back of your hand) is that this time the nose cone moves (and it does so before you swing the head around or attach the swing bar for the legs).  Speaking of the fuselage, it is removable so fans can reenact the infamous scene where the VF-1S saves the VF-1D in the introduction episodes of the original Macross.  The swing bar most resembles the bar used in the VF-0 toy as it has a hinge located higher up that needs to be angled properly to connect.  If you have the fuselage walked far enough up you shouldn’t have a hard time connect the hip bar or removing it.  The one problem with this mode of transformation is that the head now sits too high in battroid mode.  Nothing else on the toy really strikes me as bold new design efforts but everything does strike me as mild improvements over predecessors from the tightness of the modes, connections of the joints, even the articulation of the hands.  Some people might not be too fond of a few of the changes which include a new shoulder design that seems a bit flimsy and the hook that holds the backpack to the back (important when super parts are applied) is now part of the backpack rather than being hidden away like it was on the 1/48.  In my opinion the hook is so tiny it’s a non-issue but the jury is still out on the new shoulders.  The way the new super parts attach seems like a step backward but it works exceedingly well and leaves only the slightest of visual traces when viewed at the most awkward of angles.

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Durability & Build: (4/10) *for the original Focker release, releases since then would vary with the list provided below.
Handling this toy made me realize just how poorly built the Yamato 1/48 series is.  If you’re reading this and thinking “The Yamato 1/48 series is built really well!” then know that I agreed with you before handling this toy.  Now my thoughts of the 1/48 are marred by the memories of loose airbrakes, wing flaps falling off, reaction missiles that never fit properly, fast packs that fell apart during transformation, and various other fit and finish issues.  I used to have extremely high praise for those toys but now I’m going to go back and revise their score in this section downward (but just tiny bit).  Update 3/14/09:  My original review noted that there had already been some reports of broken shoulders but they seemed far and few between.  After a bit more time it was clear that the first edition of the version 2 1/60 series had extremely fragile shoulders.  Some people received their toys broken in the box (still pretty rare) and many more had their’s break after only minor handling.  I had my toy out for several reviews and transformed it a handful of times and during my photo shoot for the VF-1D the shoulders showed the cracks I’d seen others complain about.  A Poll at Macrossworld showed nearly 20% of early adopters had their toys break and there’s a good chance that many of the other 80% simply hadn’t handled their toys much at all.  The good news is that there are very few reported broken shoulders on the subsequent releases.  Check out the picture below to know exactly the break to be afraid and see the list for which V2s were particularly susceptible to the broken shoulder issue.  Fortunately, Yamato’s new method of attaching super parts seem to take the strain of the backpack which was the 1/48’s major weakness.  There are two other weaknesses of the new 1/60 line that should be noted.  First, the paint on the tail fins is prone to chipping off so do not use the backpack hook with any V2 variant with painted tailfins (like the Focker toys).  Second, the rainbow effect painted on the cockpit canopy has a nasty habit of peeling away.  There’s no real fix to this but the effect can be rubbed away easily to make for a completely clear canopy.  Beginning with Yamato’s VF-11C toy they’ve done away with this canopy effect which is SUPERB news for all of us as it means we’ll have a way to tell future reissues apart from first editions with weak shoulders.

1) Focker VF-1S with Super Parts (V2) – Worst shoulders ever, avoid
2) Focker VF-1S stand alone (V2) – bad shoulders
3) VF-1A Hikaru with Super Parts (V2) – bad shoulders
4) VF-1A Hikaru stand alone (V2) – bad shoulders
5) VF-1J Hikaru with Super Parts (V2) – Potentially bad shoulders (far less frequency than the first four releases.. allegedly Yamato urged the factories to be more careful at this point… hell of a fix.
6) VF-1J Hikaru stand alone (V2) – potentially bad shoulders
7) VF-1S Hikaru with Super Parts (V2) – potentially bad shoulders
8′) VF-1D Trainer (V2) – I haven’t heard of a single broken one… rumor is that this release has smaller shoulder pins but I can’t substantiate that
9) VF-1S Max (V2) – Rumored to be safe (if you have any insight, please leave a comment)
10) VF-1A Max TV (V2) – Rumored to be safe
11) VF-1A Max DYRL (V2) – Rumored to be safe
12) VF-1A Hayao TV (V2) – Rumored to be safe
13) VF-1A Hayao DYRL (V2) – Rumored to be safe
14) VF-1J Cannon Fodder (V2) – Rumored to be safe
15) VF-1A Cannon Fodder (V2) – Rumored to be safe
16) VT-1 SuperOstrich (V2.1) – potentially bad shoulders (!)
17) VF-1S LowVis (V2.1) – Rumored to be safe
18) VE-1 Elintseeker (V2.1) – Rumored to be safe (review pending)
19) VF-1D Virgin Road (V2.1?) – Rumored to be safe (Let me know if you own one if it’s a V2 or V2.1)
20) VF-1J Miria (V2.1?) – Rumored to be safe but has some delicate paint
21) VF-1J Max (V2.1?) – Rumored to be safe but has some delicate paint
22) VF-1S Focker Anniversary (V2) – Rumored to be safe
23) VF-1S Hikaru Anniversary (V2) – Rumored to be safe
24) VF-1J Hikaru with GBP (V2) – Reissue of stand alone with potentially bad shoulders

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Articulation: (9.5/10)
This toy is a ton of fun to play with and many very exciting poses can be had.  The arm mobility has been improved over the 1/48s in a rather large way which makes for new, exciting poses that can be achieved.  Two small concerns: the toy no longer has limited twisting ability at the waist and 2) you can’t really cheat the legs out of the hip any more to achieve a wider A-stance.

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Total Score: (38.5/50) (45/50 for anniversary edition if the shoulders really are good)
What does it all boil down to?  If Yamato fixes the shoulder issue this is a better toy than Yamato’s 1/48 series.  Sure, it loses lots of bells and whistles but most of the 1/48s neat little tricks sounded way better on paper than they were in reality.  The hidden nose radar, the wing flaps, the airbrake, the individual mini missiles in the super parts, the antenna in the backpack, were all awesome details that ended up popping off during handling, getting bent, interfering with transformation and each was one more area that spotty quality control could leave the owner of a very expensive toy unhappy with its purchase.  Is it the perfect VF-1 toy?  No, but it’s likely as close as we’re going to get.  Sure, it’s expensive, but it’s not ridiculously so especially if you opt to buy just the VF-1S toy without strike parts (or buy the strike parts separately and have them for any number of upcoming releases).  No need to go tossing your 1/48s though, they still would make superior diorama pieces with all those extras that these 1/60s have eschewed.  At this point, with all the issues of the V2, I think it’s highly likely that Yamato will release a V2.5 at some point in the not-so-distant future with clear improvements to this original V2 so that we will all be able to double-dip yet again on the toy and this time do so with the security of knowing we can actually handle it without the arms snapping off at the shoulders.

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NOTE: This review was updated in 2009: it now includes evidence of the fragile shoulders I was only suspicious about when I did my first impression review.  It was updated again in 2010 to include the anniversary edition and expand the conversation of the various weaknesses of the V2 line and which toy are more prone to shoulder failure than others.

Original Post Date: August, 2008

First Update: March 14, 2009

28 Comments »

  1. fifbeat said,

    August 5, 2008 at 4:11 am

    Another great and detailed review. I’m kinda stuck in 1/48 mode when it comes to these valks, so I might have to pass (which is just an excuse for me being broke!) even though it does seem like an awesome upgrade.

  2. micronian said,

    August 5, 2008 at 4:36 am

    Correction Numero Uno – When this post went up I original said that the knees seemed to hinder articulation a bit more than the 1/48 had. I failed to realize at that time that the joint could be exposed a bit more which gives the knees greater mobility (equal to the 1/48).

  3. jackdaniels said,

    August 5, 2008 at 4:50 am

    I asked this in the MWF a few days ago but everyone ignored it, so I’ll ask it here since you actually have it. This will be my first valkyrie so it might seem dumb. Should I take care in handling the areas with the printed details so that they don’t rub off/get scratched?

  4. micronian said,

    August 5, 2008 at 4:58 am

    You don’t have to worry about the painted on decals in the least. You obviously shouldn’t go after them with something sharp, and if you wanted to strip them off the valk for a custom using any number of chemicals you could, but they won’t get scratched or flake off from normal handling.

  5. mackie3 said,

    August 5, 2008 at 5:13 am

    Any thoughts on the neck? Do you think it is too exposed, or is it not noticeable? Cuz in some pics it looks really weird and in other it seems fine. Great review as always btw

  6. micronian said,

    August 5, 2008 at 5:38 am

    Yes, there’s definitely an issue with the placement of the neck on this toy. Yamato’s new trick of having the fuselage slide upward keeps the nosecone from drooping down too low below the knees at the expense of moving the head upward on the torso. In a way this actually makes sense as the neck is traditionally seen starting below the shoulders which isn’t normal if human anatomy is the starting point. The battroid on this toy much more closely resembles the human form. From a personal perspective, it didn’t bother me very much but I can easily imagine some may prefer Yamato’s treatment of the neck/head position better on the 1/48. As we speak I’m snapping pics of the most popular VF-1 toys for a large comparison post in which everyone will be able to determine for themselves how much the head/neck bothers them from seeing all toys at approximately the same angle… unfortunately it’ll probably take a while for me to get that up.

  7. Nexxstalker said,

    August 5, 2008 at 8:21 am

    I’ll eagerly wait the comparison post!

  8. Mark said,

    August 5, 2008 at 11:59 am

    Excellent review. I will probably get thisalong with the cannon fodder VF-1A and the VF-1D. Thank you so much for posting this (and all your other) excellent reviews. I know what you mean, the 1/48 are not bad toys, they beautiful with excellent detail, but when compared to other Valkyries the 1/48 are very delicate in some areas. Thankfully I listened to your advice and did purchase a original 1/60. Is the hip bar still made of die-cast? I am also looking forward to the VF-25.
    Thanks again.

  9. Kyp Durron said,

    August 5, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    I thought it was gonna be better than the 1/48, it just seems surreal to see you saying it, lol. Lmao at you lowering the 1/48 score. It’s funny because for so long now, it’s been the benchmark by which everything after that Yamato has done has been judged. :P

    So I guess we have a new benchmark now? 8-)

    I’ve ordered the stand alone version from HLJ, I just couldn’t justify me buying the Super/Strike version knowing that I’ve never really been a fan of the fast packs. That, and the fact that it would end up spending 99% of the time displayed without them anyways.

    If I can, I’m going to get the stand alone T.V. fast packs for the 1J when it comes out. I’ve always been more of a fan of the T.V. series anyways.

    -Kyp

  10. jackdaniels said,

    August 5, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    When I first saw the comparison shot of the 3 versions in their fighter mode, I thought you had the 1/60s mixed up because the v2 seemed to be missing the panel lines that the 1/48 and v1 have. From your other pics, I can see that they actually are there, but barely show up. I thought the new thinner lines were supposed to be a good thing?

  11. micronian said,

    August 6, 2008 at 3:10 am

    On the thinner panel lines: theoretically they really are a good thing. If you can make them thinner you can include more of them. I don’t think Yamato was all that aggressive in employing them just yet. As it is, you’re right, they’re pretty easy to over-look but they are more noticeable when the toy is in your hand. Customizers are going to LOVE how this bird will look with a mild wash though, I can tell you that already.

    The swing bar is a two piece metal part that is painted.  However, unlike the 1/48s that clipped hard onto the swing bar and often chipped the paint, these toys grab the bar much more gently (the fact the there’s no swivel at the waist also reduces the chance of chipping paint off the bar).  The 1/48 also frequently chipped paint of the swing bar when the head would brush up against it but it doesn’t seem like that will be a problem for these 1/60 2.0’s (especially since you can simply remove the head if you’re worried about that).

  12. MisterRyno said,

    August 10, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    As always…GREAT review! I must say…the final score is the highest I’ve seen in a while. THANKS!

    N I N J A

  13. Robodragonsdf1 said,

    August 11, 2008 at 3:25 am

    That’s it your officially on my “Hate You List”. I was not going to get this, but now after reading your revive I’m going to have to bit off the expense and the betting I’m going to get from my wife and buy this.

    Great review as always.

  14. Kyp Durron said,

    August 12, 2008 at 5:00 am

    I was pretty sure that this was better than the 1/48’s just from the pics and reviews and now that I have my non FP set Roy 1S, I KNOW it’s better! It’s everything I love about the 1/48, with non of the things I didn’t like about it.

    Can’t wait to see the 1D when it comes out!

    -Kyp

  15. Ern said,

    August 12, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    I don’t know how you can score a 9/10 on durability on both a 1/55 and 1/60. An actual test would most likely show results, but nobody would want to sacrifice a new 1/60.

  16. micronian said,

    August 13, 2008 at 12:45 am

    Good point… as I said, I really do need to go back and update all my previous VF-1 reviews. I’ve been hunting around for new 1/60 horror stories and as popular as this toy has been there’s been a real dearth of broken toy reports. Maybe I should up my 1/55 report to show those toys as a 9.5/10?

  17. schmungbeen said,

    October 10, 2008 at 12:41 am

    I was highly skeptical about this new release, but looking at this review… Man I want one! Unsure as to whether to sell the 1/48 version though. The 1/60 Super VF-1J looks pretty hot. Also If they bring a VF-1D out ill be all over that too… Is that confirmed to come out?
    Thanks for the great review, though I think my wallet may suffer for it!

  18. hutch said,

    July 26, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    I’m thinking of getting into the 1/60’s…

    How can I tell if I’m getting a ’second release’ VF-1S Focker? Is it just the one that comes with the super parts?

    Any help is appreciated, thanks…

  19. melkieboi said,

    August 2, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    hi there,

    very nice review!

    i wonder do they come with a display stand for this 1/60 VF-1S with superstrick?

    if not where or which kind fo stand can we use?

  20. fifbeat said,

    August 18, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Do you have a picture of the 1/48 and 1/60 v2 standing side by side in Battroid mode? I can’t find one anywhere on line. Please help me. Thanks in advance. =)

  21. Thomas said,

    September 17, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Is it possible to fit the Yamato strike pack onto the Toynami 1/55 mpc?

  22. micronian said,

    September 17, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Not without some modding and even then I’m pretty sure it’d look small (or large if you were using the 1/48). The Yamato parts are also made of textured plastic whereas the Toynami uses a smooth polished finish.

  23. Thomas said,

    September 18, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Thank you for responding to my question.

    Would you be able to elaborate on why kind of modding would be required?

    I’d assume that a glossy app finish would be the first.

  24. fifbeat said,

    March 2, 2010 at 11:16 am

    I plan on getting these Ann. editions. How rare are these? Seems everywhere I go, they’re sold out! :(

  25. Darío said,

    March 2, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Hi!
    I buy a VF-1J Max, and you´re right. The paint is very delicate… too delicate.
    Other thing that I hate is the hard points on the right wing. I tried to put the missiles on one of them and it broke. The left wing is all right.
    It´s too sad. I have an SV-51. I like it, but it’s a little floppy. When I get the 1J I believe it´s was a better Valk. Smaller, but very well donne… And then that happend… I should buy a 21/22…

    Nice review as allways.

  26. wewe said,

    March 3, 2010 at 3:20 am

    So far I’m happy with the shoulders, joints and fit. Have been playing with figure since the time I got it last Dec 0f 2009. One major issue I have is with the black paint application on the tail fin. Mine got scratched due to the way gets folded and hits on the protruding fin on the back of the battroid.

  27. fifbeat said,

    March 8, 2010 at 5:11 am

    You know what the funny thing is, I always thought my box was sorta faded with a blue-ish/green-ish tint (VF-1S Super/Strike, non-Anniversary box), but now that I’ve seen yours, it has the same kinda strange faded/non-color corrected packaging.

  28. Mark said,

    April 24, 2010 at 9:23 am

    I have owned every scale from the different companies that make Valkyries and the original Takatoku/ Bandai 1/55 is still the best. Never had any problems with them.
    With Toynami I had QC issues…but then Yamato was whole different story, part broke very easily.
    I was a fan of the design of the new V2 1/60, but the other week myVF-1S’ shoulder broke.
    ORIGINAL 1/55 RULES!

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